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Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.15 16:51:00 - [1] I'm nowhere near needing the top SP clones, but can already make 120mil like it was nothing. I have a head full of implants that are each worth that much on my main clone, and use a jump clone full of +4s for anything risky. If you've been playing for 5-6 years and think 120mil is a lot you need to actually play the game more often, instead of only logging in to gain more SP you can't afford to cover. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.15 16:59:00 - [2] Originally by: Ghoest Originally by: Professor Tarantula I'm nowhere near needing the top SP clones, but can already make 120mil like it was nothing. I have a head full of implants that are each worth that much on my main clone, and use a jump clone full of +4s for anything risky. If you've been playing for 5-6 years and think 120mil is a lot you need to actually play the game more often, instead of only logging in to gain more SP you can't afford to cover. The other people who disagreed had real points - your point on the other hand is stupid. If you are a competent person making money is solely a function time spent once you hit 20 mill or so SP. And your point was what? SP don't make money on their own? Brilliant observation. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 15:18:00 - [3] I've come up with a solution. Those of you who just want to watch training bars complete, and have no interest in actually applying the SP in a way that would make you exponentially larger amounts of isk as time goes on, should play this instead. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 17:48:00 - [4] Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 17/03/2010 17:53:53 Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia "well be more active and make more isk then", that is fair and I'm not knocking your point. But pvp loss is STILL there through so many avenues, the current rate of clone costs is silly.... ...All the fears and slippery slope interpretations regarding clone costs simply don't hold water. But they aren't that silly. At 100+ SP you should be flying something worth at least a billion isk, and have implants worth a small fortune as well, so getting podded and having to pay for a new clone is really the least of your losses. It's also easy to avoid situations where you might be killed if you can't afford it. As for the slippery slope thing, it is a valid point. Look at how people just want more and more time on the skillqueue now that we have one. Even changing the model for the scorpion made people insist it be done to all other asymmetrical ships. For the record i do agree with your main point, although only in relation to the very high end clone prices, but sadly it's in the best interests of CCP to stick to their guns on this matter because it would only inspire crowds of people to start making similar demands ad nauseum. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 17:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Liang Nuren Edited by: Liang Nuren on 17/03/2010 17:53:44 Originally by: Professor Tarantula But they aren't that silly. At 100+ SP you should be flying something worth at least a billion isk, and have implants worth a small fortune as well, so getting podded and having to pay for a new clone is really the least of your losses Who says I should be "forced" to fly something worth a billion ISK if I've got 100M SP? What, I'm no longer allowed to fly a Drake or Hurricane because you somehow feel it's a waste of my SP? I'm no longer allowed to fly a dictor (even pimped out to a billion+ ISK) because you WILL lose your pod every time you die? Telling someone that they SHOULD be flying a billion ISK ship just because they have high SP is ****ING WRONG AND STUPID. -Liang Ed: Formatting You'll be much harder to kill in an expensive ship, so consider it an investment towards protecting your clone. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 18:03:00 - [6] Look Liang, I can see you're really upset about this. I honestly think you ought to sit down calmly, take a stress pill and think things over. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 18:10:00 - [7] Why would you need that many SP if you have no interest in flying expensive ships? It doesn't make any sense. Here's a new idea: Just stop training things after you can fly a Rifter properly, this will keep your clone prices cheap. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 18:15:00 - [8] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Professor Tarantula Why would you need that many SP if you have no interest in flying expensive ships? Because you want to fly many ships? You can train every race upto battleship level and still not be paying alot for your clones. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 18:32:00 - [9] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Professor Tarantula Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Professor Tarantula Why would you need that many SP if you have no interest in flying expensive ships? Because you want to fly many ships? You can train every race upto battleship level and still not be paying alot for your clones. àincluding all the various bits and pieces that you'd might want to tack onto them to fulfil their every role? Sure. It takes a helluva lot more training than that to need the expensive clones. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.03.17 18:49:00 - [10] Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton hmm I'm doing that and am right around 58mil sp, still a long ways to go, oh and need to do another cruiser/bs 5, missile skills, and 3 frig 5s. that's just in per/wp skills, loads of ewar skills to do after I remap to int/mem! so that should be what ~80mil sp? You're losing track of some SP somewhere. I've gone much further with much less. My deepest sympathies. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.

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